Comments on: And people wonder why I hate HP http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/ im in ur datacentrz configurin' ur routerz Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:46:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: evilrouters.net » Blog Archive » Yet another reason to hate HP http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1709 evilrouters.net » Blog Archive » Yet another reason to hate HP Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:39:15 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1709 <p>[...] And people wonder why I hate HP… Share and Enjoy: [...]</p> [...] And people wonder why I hate HP… Share and Enjoy: [...]

]]> By: evilrouters.net » Blog Archive » Video of HP ProCurve “anomaly” http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1346 evilrouters.net » Blog Archive » Video of HP ProCurve “anomaly” Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:32:52 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1346 <p>[...] 5406zl switch running version K.13.60 firmware (yes, I know it’s not the latest — read this to find out why I’m not running K.13.63). In the top session, you see me execute these [...]</p> [...] 5406zl switch running version K.13.60 firmware (yes, I know it’s not the latest — read this to find out why I’m not running K.13.63). In the top session, you see me execute these [...]

]]> By: Mike http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1271 Mike Fri, 29 May 2009 10:55:15 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1271 <p>That does suck and I know what you mean about HP support - I tried to get them to tell me whether their SX GBICs would support runs longer than 550M with fiber rated longer than that and the impression I got was that the engineering team was two guys in a garage.</p> <p>That having been said, how is this any different than Cisco? (except the gear costs half as much) It never seems like there's a stable release (GR) of IOS for Aironet ("using DHCP and TACACS+, yeah we're going stop stop authenticating over the wire AND at the console!" was one example I got hit by recently.) I've yet to find an IOS release that doesn't eventually start having CEF problems for 3750 switches (This is after 10s of hours working with TAC. You'd think for $10k each they might manage that one.) and for the longest time if you wanted SSH on say a 2800 series router they were all "whoah, what kind of crazy shit is that, you best be running some ED son."</p> That does suck and I know what you mean about HP support – I tried to get them to tell me whether their SX GBICs would support runs longer than 550M with fiber rated longer than that and the impression I got was that the engineering team was two guys in a garage.

That having been said, how is this any different than Cisco? (except the gear costs half as much) It never seems like there’s a stable release (GR) of IOS for Aironet (“using DHCP and TACACS+, yeah we’re going stop stop authenticating over the wire AND at the console!” was one example I got hit by recently.) I’ve yet to find an IOS release that doesn’t eventually start having CEF problems for 3750 switches (This is after 10s of hours working with TAC. You’d think for $10k each they might manage that one.) and for the longest time if you wanted SSH on say a 2800 series router they were all “whoah, what kind of crazy shit is that, you best be running some ED son.”

]]> By: Chris http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1266 Chris Thu, 28 May 2009 16:03:07 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1266 <p>One thing that rubs me the wrong way is that HP's Procruve Manager Plus does not support AES encryption for SNMPv3 Priv. Their switches support AES, but for some reason HP does not seem to want their two products to be fully compatible. It doesn't matter either way since PCM+ is horrible for network monitoring, IMO and it will be replaced (at least in our organization) this summer.</p> One thing that rubs me the wrong way is that HP’s Procruve Manager Plus does not support AES encryption for SNMPv3 Priv. Their switches support AES, but for some reason HP does not seem to want their two products to be fully compatible. It doesn’t matter either way since PCM+ is horrible for network monitoring, IMO and it will be replaced (at least in our organization) this summer.

]]> By: yoz http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1264 yoz Thu, 28 May 2009 07:51:58 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1264 <p>That's amazing :)</p> That’s amazing :)

]]> By: Chris C http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1263 Chris C Thu, 28 May 2009 03:36:45 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1263 <p>But they have a lifetime warranty!! LOL!</p> But they have a lifetime warranty!! LOL!

]]> By: Chris http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1260 Chris Thu, 28 May 2009 02:16:39 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1260 <p>"Our stuff always works, sometimes"</p> “Our stuff always works, sometimes”

]]> By: SDC http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/comment-page-1/#comment-1256 SDC Wed, 27 May 2009 22:42:04 +0000 http://evilrouters.net/2009/05/27/and-people-wonder-why-i-hate-hp/#comment-1256 <p>'Our shit doesn't work? Well, how about a shaky beta of our new shit?'</p> <p>Nice one, HP.</p> ‘Our shit doesn’t work? Well, how about a shaky beta of our new shit?’

Nice one, HP.

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